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There was a small 3D gaming presence at PAX 2009 but, honestly, the booth was mostly bare. The featured resident of the booth was a 12 year old kid who discovered that they had a PC version of Borderlands running, and with noone to shoo him away after 10 minutes like at the actual Borderlands booth, he was able to setup camp and play through most of the game without a care in the world. But really, that was about it. There was no true excitement over the feature and everyone treated as a complete gimmic.
Now there are a lot of companies, including Nintendo with the new 3DS, investing in this technology. It may just be that we won't know we want it until we see it (the breakout success of the Wii was a surprise to many people). Or it may just be a simple blip, a market fad coming to peak during one of the biggest industry events in the world.
In some ways, the pairing of 3D gaming and motion control together gets us closer and closer to something resembling the Halodeck but I'm not convinced that this interactive experience is something we would necessarily call "gaming" per se'. Here we are getting into the realm of virtual experience, and though the definition of what is a "game" is extremely broad, much of what we understand as the modern equivalent of gaming is certainly held back by the physical limitations of the user. Mainly speaking, of course, as far as motion control is concerned. I won't even get into the problems that a lack of tactile experience create for the legitimacy of motion control as a virtual reality equivalent.
So I ask you. Is there any true excitement for 3D gaming? What do you see as the drawbacks? The benefits? And, is it all just too much to soon? With larger companies trying to hard sell motion control, would the forced injection of 3D into the industry at this time simply be too much for the consumer?
-Joseph-
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14 years, 4 months ago
Well, I guess we were destined to have 3D gaming, but I really dont see it being a hit for years. I really don't want 3d gaming to take over. It's just not what I'm used to, and I think gaming should stay as it is. Hopefully it doesnt turn into some trend and then EVER gaming company will try to compete, and all hell will break loose. I really see no benefits at all, besides shit being 3d. They would probably be overpriced, and people with bad eyesight wouldn't be able to even play.
14 years, 4 months ago
No. Because 3D is not the future, holograms are the future.
14 years, 4 months ago
I think it is a TERRIBLE idea that we would actually have our games in 3-D, because I do not see one thing that it would necessarily add, it gives this depth of field, that does nothing to actually enhance the gameplay. Now I know some people out there say "Well it makes it easier to spot....guys/things"...well..it doesn't and I really want to point this out, that probably the word we are going to hear a lot, is the term of "immersion". Just because something looks like a Viewmaster(remembers those?), does not mean you are being immersed in something, immersion is more of a sensory/emotional state rather than "I can see things wrapped all the way around me".
I'd be surprised if there are many developers out there who are thinking, "Yea, I really wanna have a 3-D game", not to say there won't be 2 or 3 good games that can be made in 3-D that are probably indie. But I'm really at a loss as to how an experience, like Uncharted 2, could ever be enhanced with the use of 3-D.
Everyone seems to be rattling around some new idea, for the mere fact...that its new and that we're just constantly obsessed that, whatever we have cannot be satisfactory and things have to be improved upon, Avatar may have said "I see you", but I didn't see sh*t.
14 years, 4 months ago
I don't see any need for it, sure maybe one or two games will make inventive use of the technology, but most will just tack it on just to say they have this new gimmick.
14 years, 4 months ago
I think it'll be interesting; worth keeping an eye on. But I doubt it will sweep in as some sort of 'Next Best Thing'.
14 years, 4 months ago
The only 3D I care about is on the 3DS. Glasses free and handheld (so you don't have to worry about viewing angle). I love my DS, and before that I loved my GBA, and before that I loved my GBC (even if all I had was Pokemon). I can't wait to see what Nintendo does with its next handheld. However, I likely won't buy it until the second generation 3DS "Lite" comes out.
14 years, 4 months ago
3d...just like motion control needs to die
14 years, 4 months ago
The thing is, the technology's going to get a lot better (like affordable, glasses-free 3D in 1080p or better) before 3D actually catches on with the masses. Right now, 3D has some obvious flaws, and most people probably bought an HD TV recently enough to not want to bother with this. It seems so dumb to push it now, probably even dumber to buy it.
14 years, 4 months ago
I had never thought about gaming being in 3D... mainly because it isn't something we actually NEED...nor maybe even want for most people. I don't see much benefit into 3D gaming besides shit looking like 3D. I could see it as a benefit for horror games since most of what horror games try to do is scare you like the Fear games. In them, you have Alma jumping at you. Since it's not in 3D, it's not AS scary to you than it would be if it's in 3D. That's basically the only benefit I see. But, people still get scared without it.
3D gaming just seems like a waste of a project for ALL types of games. Look at movies... not ALL movies are in 3D (but soon all movies will be put into 3D, as I've heard). I even see that as pointless. Not all movies need to be in 3D since most don't have anything coming out at you except those that were made to be in 3D.
3D has always been an option and for good reasons. There are some people who just don't like 3D because it's not something we are used to. Others, there's the eye problems. Watching a lot of 3D can hurt your eyes to at least some other people. I have a friend who was talking to me just about the work of all movies being put into 3D and she HATES it. She doesn't like to watch 3D movies since they hurt her eyes. It almost seems like to me that we are being put into a place where options just isn't an option anymore. Just look at HD television.
Sorry, blabbed a lot in this haha. But I just think it's ridiculous. Maybe some games could be in 3D but i also just can't see how that could work out in the first place.
14 years, 4 months ago
I think 3D could have a solid basis if it doesn't over-reach. There's not much value to a 3D game mainly because there's nothing that a 3D game can do that other games can't - at least not that anyone has demonstrated. It could be very possible someone comes out and says "look at this", and the only response is 'wow'.
I wish companies would invest more in virtual reality for the home. It was there a couple of decades ago, but now it's faded off in to almost the realm of sci-fi. The only people with it are on television.
14 years, 4 months ago
I think 3D would only be truly good for games if it was the debris when you blow up a building or bullets wising past your face, not a full on experience with the people grabbing through you screen or anything like that. And I also see it only being truly good for simulators, like FSX for example, you would want to be IN the cockpit of the plane. Theres my 2 Cents.
14 years, 4 months ago
If we don't keep up to date with tech we'll end up like our grandparents
14 years, 4 months ago
I could careless about it because it's not real 3D and this technology has been around forever, all it does is an illusion with the screen. Now if it were actual fully 3D projected images (which we can already do to some extent) I would be more interested. This 3D feels more like a fad that will soon die out, probably similar to how they said they were gonna make it where you could smell in the games through some device.
14 years, 4 months ago
seriously? everybody here hates 3d THAT much?
i wonder if even half the people here tried it yet
not saying that i have but i feel 3d is kinda cool , i mean , imagine while you're playing the fps game and bullets whizz past your head, etc. etc.
i guess everyone here loves the way games are right now? well im looking for something new, and when the technology has improved (together with ATI releasing graphic cards that support 3d gaming) , i will definitely buy the hardware to run it.
14 years, 4 months ago
I've tried it plenty of times especially when it was popular in the 90's and 3D glasses came with a lot of stuff.
@Byrce, it's not 3D projected images like bullets whizzing passing your head or anything. It's more like having images on your screen pop out a little, I recommend you try it out before forming your opinion or assuming things.
14 years, 4 months ago
I can't stand the new 3d craze. Sure, it was fine when it was a gimmick at Disney World or whatever, but it just doesn't work well enough for me to want it. Avatar had bad 3d. Every time the camera moved at more than a snail's pace everything in the background went blurry. 3d is ruining this generation of movies slowly but surely.
14 years, 4 months ago
I think everyone on this thread raises valid points- there are aspects of gaming that I feel can be made more drastic/ more fun/ more scary through the use of 3D technology. That being said, In Avatar and other 3D movies I can barely even pay attention to what I am supposed to focus on, I am too visually distracted by leaves being rustled in the wind in the backround or something. I agree that 3D needs some vast improvements on the technology.
Not many people have touched on the virtual reality aspect of Joseph's post. I personally cannot wait for VR, then again I keep in pretty good shape and I would crave the physical aspects VR offers. Plus, if you think 3D Alma would be scary, imagine living it. However, there are a lot of aspects I think need careful consideration before we take that step... for example, will you have to move by physically running, or by using non-active means? If you do have to run yourself, how will the controller be configured so that you stay in place? If you use a joystick, can it really be considered VR? Will we be able to feel surface texture if we place our hand upon a rocky wall? And recently, the trend in games is to have hours upon hours of gaming and high replayability value. Games will probably have to be cut down considerably in length because of both production costs and because of the physical duress induced while playing. I could go on, but I think my point is made.
In Sci-fi, they have done VR to where you hook up your brain, go unconscious, and "wake up" inside the game, where the brain is given impulses from the system and is fooled into interpreting stimulus and responds by your own thoughts. How thoughts will be translated into code and from code into game commands is out of my realm of knowledge.
Joseph: As far a the coined term "gaming" goes, as in VIDEO gaming, I think VR would fall outside of those realms and be a separate entity as I can only assume that VR would consist of more than just video, which only focuses on sight, whereas VR would hopefully appeal to all of our senses. However, sports are also considered games. So my opinion is that VR would fall into the realm of games, just not gaming aka video gaming for the reasons I have stated.
14 years, 4 months ago
Whenever I hear talk about 3d gaming with 3d glasses, The first thing I keep thinking, is that they're making another game with Micheal Jackson (His Ghost most likely) in it based on Captain 3-0 (Or whatever that disney ride was called, I can't remember crap anymore).
14 years, 4 months ago
3D is a big no in my books. Maybe going to the movies for something like Avatar (although I didn't) I can see but just the thought of having to sit around ion my house, a movie theater, a bar- anywhere and wearing these idiotic glasses just to watch tv doesn't sit well with me, neither does the aspect of getting a headache if I choose to not wear the glasses. I really want the whole "3D revolution" to blow over and fast to be honest but with all the hype over it since Avatar, the new 3D tv's and now stuff like the 3DS I don't think it will.
Now what I would like to see is a perfected version of VR. Instead of dumping our cash into 3D why don't we just dump our cash into something like that? Whatever the case is for now at least motion control and 3D are here to stay whether we like it or not, for better or worse.