I was just thinking to myself, man, this game isn't as difficult as everyone made it out to be. Then literally I died seconds later in a ridiculous way with one life point on my bar just as I was reaching a non-drain point in dark world. I was on my way to a save point so none of my progress was logged and I lost about 20 minutes of work. I still don't think the game is THAT difficult. The bosses have been relatively easy, most of which I've beaten first try. Mostly I think this is because the problems with controls are alleviated. Sadly it's not because Prime 2's controls are better than the original. The frustrations with control come a lot from the fact that Samus is limited in areas and movement because of the life drain points. Instead of having enemies jumping around you making thing all backward and disoriented, it's been great for the game because you literally stand in a safe spot and shoot all the enemies in the surrounding area. There's no more awkwardly trying to run and strafe, then turn around to shoot. But it has been a pain because everyone is shooting you in the safe zone and there's not many places you can go to dodge. PS that's exactly how I died.

It's a really strange mix that I've run into and I'm really curious as to how the rest of Prime 2 will play out. I'm also wondering how many people actually played Prime 2. I hear it get a bunch of praise and it's got great scores, but you'd think certain things would come up. Like Dark Suit Samus. Samus get's a dark suit making her life drain less. I've never heard anyone talk about it. I mean WTF is this thing?


I've also never heard anyone talk about the story and the crappiness that is the ancient race you talk to. In all honestly, I even doubt a lot of reviewers finished this game because on the surface level, it looks so similar to the original Prime.  I've had people tell me to pass up on this one and skip right to the third but I'm honestly interested in Prime 2.

Call me weird?
David

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    Brian
    14 years ago

    I really like Metroid Prime 2. At least, like it a hell of a lot more than Corruption. It's definitely the most challenging of the trilogy, even though there are only 2 or 3 bosses that I'd count as REALLY tough.

    I'm glad you didn't skip over Echoes. It's definitely enough of a unique experience to warrant playing, and the bosses are some of the greatest I've ever seen.

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    ArcHeRHooD
    14 years ago

    Yeah, I played through this Prime. Once you get the Dark Suit, the dark world becomes MUCH easier to go through. You really don't notice your life drain with the Dark Suit, but the thing about it also is you spend most of the game with that suit, not counting near end game and... it's also not that good looking. Cool in its shape, but the colors are bleh. I really enjoyed my experience with this game, much more them Prime 1 for some reason, maybe cause of some of the new items I got in this game and the 3rd area you get to explore (1st being the wasteland). Never really cared about the story much, or the Luminoth (Even though they look cool Imo) I just stayed for the adventure and experience.

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    xzr
    14 years ago

    Honestly, I loved Prime 2, at least, while I had the momentum of playing it in one play through. I think I got, 70%? or so through the game and still haven't finished it to this day.

    The problem is the Dark World itself and the damaging aura within it is almost like it's designed to stop you from exploring, which especially hurts in Metroid's explorations standard. Being damaged for not being where the developer wants you or because you don't know where the developer wants you to go wears down on you. Eventually it wore down on me so much, I stopped playing, which is THE WORST. This happens, you forget where the hell you're supposed to go, you're even more lost, and trying to trace your footsteps through acidic air isn't fun. Maybe someday I can pick it up again and beat it in a good go.

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    Severi
    14 years ago

    I loved Echoes. Not as good as Prime, mainly thanks to the key collecting at the end, but great game. Agon Wastes, Torvus Bog and Sanctuary Fortress are amazing areas + their dark realms. Handful of sequence breaks make it even more interesting.

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    Bayonetta
    14 years ago

    As a big fanatic of the original Prime. The series just kept going downhill from the original for me, Retro studios definitely peaked on Prime 1, and I'm glad they stopped working on Metroid franchise (well, at least in First Person, I would like to see their take on a 2D one or something a la Other M).

    Putting it crudely, Prime 2 was boring and frustrating for the most part, and when it is interesting it's over way too quickly. I don't want to write too much on this and how Prime 2 & 3 were more than just dissapointments for me, since I don't have too much time right now, I might make a post on this. Also.....why is the music so.....bleh? It's either our-of-place, nonexistent , or extremely repetitive. The tunes that were new stunk. Thats my 2 cents.

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    PancakeChef
    14 years ago

    I've played it but have never finished it for some reason. I thought it was a pretty good Metroid game and did find it to be a bit more difficult than the first and third games. I never got the feeling of it being too hard or cheap though, just right.

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    Packersnak
    14 years ago

    I've played Prime 1 and Echoes, but I haven't beaten any of the two.

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    Arxidus
    14 years ago

    I've never actually played Echoes, but I have breaten both 1 and 3. It's just something about 2and 3 that strikes me as "not that Metroidy." Prime 1 felt just like a side-scrolling Metroid, except that it was in 3D, which was awesome. It still had that old Metroid feel to it. I feel as if Prime 2 and 3 lacked that sense of Metroid that made the side-scrollers so good. I can't really put my finger on it as to why, but it didn't feel like Metroid to me.

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    MetalSonic
    14 years ago

    As Archerhood said the game gets much easier when you get the Dark Suit. To me Prime 2 was my favorite Prime game. The game had less backtracking and more intersting puzzles than Prime 1. Also you will be able to get the light suit late in the game which makes completely invulnerable the Dark World.
    After reading your Other M review I do think you will enjoy Prime 3 the most(little backtracking, no switching beams, a much smaller world) I do play some more of Prime 2. Also Boost Guardian is the hardest boss in the game so good luck.

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    zekana
    14 years ago

    I love the metroid games (recently beat super for the first time and doing a 1% run for fusion. stupid spider boss)
    Prime one had an organic world, full of plant and animal life. even places that were colonized by the pirates still felt like nature was fighting against the technology and winning. everything about prime 1 felt unique and well done.

    Prime 2 however, felt artificial, in its looks and the world. It was bland, uninteresting, and boring, but in a way, that was the point of the world. while nature was in control in prime 1, prime 2 destroyed nature and science took over. even in places in the middle of the desert, you could still find tons of technology.

    but onto what people care about, gameplay.

    The thing about Prime 2 is, it is indeed harder, but not for the right reasons. I feel like enemies have too big of health bars (this becomes painfully obvious in hard mode. atleast with prime 1 it felt like there was a beef up from normal. with prime, it felt like EVERYTHING got its health doubled and nothing more).
    however, some of the puzzles later on with the boost and spider ball are fun and I did enjoy Dark Samus in 2 (3 really ruined dark samus's threat level) an exact clone of samus who has all her moves and more. felt like a much bigger thread then the SA-X oddly enough, even though you couldn't hurt the SA-X until end game. the second fight with dark samus is probably one of my favorite fights in all of prime 2.
    also, some people will bash on prime 2 for the temple key stuff but in all fairness, it was a lot easier to find them then it was to find the keys in prime 1. 1, they were only in the dark world, and you got pretty good clues as to where they were.

    oh, and before i forget, on the matter of the beams in prime 2, I do like how each beam has a purpose and each one feels useful, unlike prime 1 where once you got the plasma beam, you really didn't need anything else cept for the space pirate colored enemies. however, the beams in prime 2 have a huge flaw. ammo. the problem isn't the ammo itself, its the fact that its in a metroid game. no other metroid games have you need ammo for your beams and in prime 2, it didn't make sense why you needed it either but atleast its not that bad. they do give you enough ammo in all but its still annoying.

    that felt like a rant. oh, multiplayer was boring in prime 2 too.

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    Shotokanguy
    14 years ago

    It goes without saying Prime 1 is the best of the 3.

    Prime 2's story is just absolutely goofy and I found parts of the gameplay such as ammo, going back and forth between the dark and lights worlds, and the searches through the dark world for items fairly tedious. That said, the boss fights were creative and the environments in the game are well designed.

    And yeah, the Dark Suit is weird looking.

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    drasil
    14 years ago

    If anything the most difficult bosses in the game are ones where you have to use the Morph Ball to defeat them. The main Torvus Bog and Sanctuary Fortress bosses were really enjoyable to fight.

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    Comradebearjew
    14 years ago

    I have never played it, but a few friends of mine have completed it and had an absolute blast with it.

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    Jalabhar
    14 years ago

    Yeah I beat it. When I played it I remember thinking that my Metroid skills must have regressed, not knowing that the game had a reputation as a difficult game. The life draining areas didn't give me much trouble, but the enemies were much more difficult, especially if you were trying impatiently to take them out fast. I actually wound up running past a lot of fights in the latter half of the game when I was going through areas that I'd been through before. I also died on most of the bosses my first try, not that they were super hard, but they did a lot of damage by the time I figured out the pattern.

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    Reapercometh
    14 years ago

    I played it and beat it. My only problem with that game is i hated the dark world. Not because it was hard or what have you. I just hated the atmosphere of it.

    Overall the game was very good though.

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    MystDragon3k
    14 years ago

    I played the hell out of this game. Compared to Prime 1, its more difficult overall, mostly because you're using the power beam more often to conserve your light/dark ammo, so enemies seem to have more health. Though I will say Prime 1 had a harder barrier of entry, after the really creepy and intense opening sequence, you're dropped off on a planet with nothing...NOTHING! You can jump and shoot, no charge, no morph ball, nothing. Only a single bar of health, and you're in this dark, rainy, creepy swamp with giant bugs who all want to do nothing more than chew on you.
    Scared the hell out of me...
    Prime 2 at least gives you some tools to work with.

    In terms of "what people aren't talking about", ill share some thoughts on them. Dark Suit? What is there to say other than it makes the dark world a bit better to navigate.
    The Luminoth? I kinda like them, like neighbors to the Chozo, only they have a tragic tale of them fighting a loosing war with the Ing.

    Should you skip Prime 2? I don't think so, you get some neat powers later on and the boss fights get really big in scope (Quadraxis OMG). If its the story you're interested in...let me direct you to a couple other games. Im not saying the Metroid story is bad...im saying its just...there...backdrop mostly. In terms of clever level design, unique boss fights, atmosphere and rooms that just make you go "how the f*ck do I get over there?!", the Metroid Prime in all its forms does really well.

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    Rendrak
    14 years ago

    I only have one thing to say; fuck the Boost Guardian. That is all.

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    Bigio
    14 years ago

    Heh, I never finished this game. Loved the first Prime, but since I started playing Prime 2 right after beating the original, I couldn't take it. It was just too similar. So I stopped, and about 3 months later I started playing again (realized it'd be better if I started from the beginning because this one had a deeper plot). This time I reached about half of the game, but again, I just quit. The game just got repetitive and boring for me. And so, for a third time, I restarted the game, hoping I'd be able to beat it. This time, I barely finished it. I reached the very last area, but unfortunately RS, for some bullshit reason, decided to repeat the EXACT same HUGE mistake they made at the end of the first game. I didn't give it a second thought: I quit the game again. I was already getting bored of it (again), and this was the last straw. Maybe next time I'll finally finish it. For some reason, this game just didn't do it for me.