The next Top 5

Just on a quick glance, I'm very disappointed to see Loom on there under 75%.

75% might be a little too high. I'd say below 70% would be better.

I'd definitely put Gotcha Force up there. A 62% is criminal.

Yeah, I'm not sure I would agree that 75% is "average" but this kind of wraps into the rest of what I say.

The idea of this is a little strange to me. A place like Game Rankings isn't a review site, it is an aggregate, there isn't some opinion formed about a game by Game Rankings that you can disagree or agree with. It is a collection of opinions but not an opinion itself.

All that Game Rankings provides is a number and that number means different things to different sites. It is even worse when it is a letter grade and Game Rankings assigns a number to something that isn't numerical, it doesn't take into account what that means on a site at all. Also, every game has hugely different amounts of scores calculated into the average. For some games it might be 1 review and for others it might be 60. Sure, they still base it on a system but it is still a flawed one.

In other words, I don't like using an aggregate site as a metric.

You can always see more haters then people who love things cause when people like things they tend to not be as loud as people who hate it so the hater get shown up more

what rawk said, and its sad how because there are so many haters, even when those who say they like it talk, they are englufed in raged filled hate. i know this from experience. its sad when people thing shadow the hedgehog is worse then sonic 06. seriously, 06?

I seen quite a few childhood favorites on that list. A lot of which I considered to be all time greats in my personal opinion at the time.

You guys are reading way too much into this. I came up with this idea to give us a chance to talk about games that dont always come up on our Top 5's. Games that are widely considered flawed. And it gives us a chance to explain why we love them despite these flaws.

And again, like yesterday, school is arguing with no one on this issue. We know you hate review scores and aggregates.

And "below average" is in quotes for a reason.

Top 5 Flawed Games, then? That would make more sense.

But who can define "flawed"? There is no such thing as a perfect game. Even amazing games like RE4, bayonetta, and no more heroes have many flaws with them, latter more then the others but i digress.

If anything, you can have it be "Top 5 games you like but reviewers don't". this way you can use the list of 75% or less and still have the "I hate rankings. my list shows i have fun with games even if their "scored" low.

Sorry, let me be wordy: Top Five Video Games That Have Significant Flaws But Are Still Pretty Darn Good In My Book.

You don't need to use something like an aggregate site to judge this and you don't have to end up sounding like a comment thread on a major site when some exclusive doesn't get a 10.

Oh wow, seriously, who the fuuuck cares what the top 5 show is called. "Below Average" in quotes is fine enough, the quotes says it all.

Or no, waaaait, hold on guys, we have to make sure theres no misunderstanding here because dear lord, what would happen if someone would download this top 5 and not get the title and think its something something else and have his nerdpride shattered when the 4pp starts saying good things about a game while calling it "below average". Devastating scenario.

Just to be on the safe side, let us call it "Top 5 Games That You Like But Where the General Consensus Among Game Reviewers And The Majority Of The Game Community Is Not As Good As It Deserves In Your Opinion"

HAHAHAHA, nicely said

take that school and zekana

you guys are nerds

i'd like to hear schools and zekana's list though

It has nothing to do with "nerdpride".

It has to do with perpetuating the idiotic ideas that so many people in video game culture subscribe to:

A score below 75% means a person hated it or means it is a bad game -- games rated on a 6-10 scale
Complaining about scores that are "too low" despite justification
Over reliance on Metacritic/Game Rankings, treating those aggregate sites like they are some higher power, or the be-all and end-all opinion on what games are good or bad

But please, just dismiss it as if I just care about some made up issue of "nerdpride".

and this stops you from making a list how?

"It has to do with perpetuating the idiotic ideas that so many people in video game culture subscribe to:"

Isn't that EXACTLY what this show would be doing. Discussing games that the majority of gaming sites have "slammed" by awarding them a low score on their silly 6-10 scale when they are actually good, and should score on the better end of the silly scale?

And lets not kid ourselves, a 75% score or lower given by a gaming website IS perceived as being average/below average by both the reviewers and the dickheaded gaming community kids, since the scale being used in most cases goes from 7-10 and thats how it has been for a long time. That is how it is. 5 is not average, 5 is "meh" or terrible, I would say 8 is the average score for a game these days. Is this stupid? Yes. Very.

Putting "Below Average" in quotes and talking about how these games are actually good and NOT average/below average, IS a way of perpetuating the idiotic ideas that gaming culture has going.

I don't understand what you're arguing other than "metacritic sites suck", no one is refuting that. There's no disagreement on any other points either.

"Isn’t that EXACTLY what this show would be doing."

That is my point. That is why I don't like the idea of this Top 5 and that was my reason for not liking it. My mistake if I was unclear before about that.